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Old 01-21-2008, 01:31 PM
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President Bush pardons...HIMSELF!
 
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Old 01-21-2008, 01:39 PM
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nice Piggy back ya got there Bush.
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Old 01-21-2008, 02:06 PM
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This is an unconventional war.. And from that blurb.. the geneva convention rules didn't apply to this war until half way through .. Lets not forget how many people were beheaded by these terrorists .. Do they follow any rules of war? I think aggressive interview tactics are called for .. well I actually think we should have killed a lot more of them instead of housing them .. would have been a lot easier

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Bush has not been charged with any war crimes... so if they say now that the Geneva contention rules apply NOW.. how do you charge someone with violations prior to the application of the rule...
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Old 01-21-2008, 02:30 PM
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Always funny how people think that Bush does everything. Chances are that someone else in the administration/Congress wrote that into the bill. Unfortuneately, there are so many people blinded with pure hate of President Bush that they'll spew every kind of lie without thinking for themselves...........
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so the rules dont apply to everybody? that makes a lot of ****ing sense....

and no matter who the hell put that bit of legislation into the bill, eveyone should be outraged that something as cheap as that is being atempted...and will probably suceed...
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Old 01-21-2008, 04:06 PM
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Actually I'm more outraged with the constant Government "entitlements". Everybody wants Uncle Sam to foot the bill for: free medicine, free medical care, free mortgages, free (insert your choice) and on and on and on! The mentality is that's it's not my fault I owe too much -- it is the banks fault! Now that Americans have learned that they can vote for the freebies that's all they vote for.
The new motto in America is: Ask not what you can do for your Country, Vote for what you can get out of your Country -- someone else will pay!
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Old 01-21-2008, 04:47 PM
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Actually I'm more outraged with the constant Government "entitlements". Everybody wants Uncle Sam to foot the bill for: free medicine, free medical care, free mortgages, free (insert your choice) and on and on and on! The mentality is that's it's not my fault I owe too much -- it is the banks fault! Now that Americans have learned that they can vote for the freebies that's all they vote for.
The new motto in America is: Ask not what you can do for your Country, Vote for what you can get out of your Country -- someone else will pay!
While I agree with you for the most part I do disagree some. As far as medicine and medical care is concerned we do need a way to help those who can't afford it to pay for it. We also need to completely blow the system up and start over. Medical costs in this country are out of control and it's because lobbiest for the insurance companies and pharmacusticals have paid of everyone and their mom. Even the so called champions of health care (Hillary Clinton). Our system is sad and to think a great and powerful nation like America has such a sham of a system to care for it's people is outrageous. With that said, I'm not for free handouts of medical care to everyone, but clearly we have to take care of the less fortunate.

Also I'd have to say anyone who doesn't think there is something wrong with the system have never been poor or without insurance. Also you don't have to be poor to not afford medical insurance. I'd bet that if 99% of the people who have their employer pay for their insurance didn't get that luxury they'd want this ****ed up system changed too. You wanna know how much I have to pay for health insurance? It's double of what my house payment is and I am a healthy non smoking 26 year old. That's ****ed up especially considering I've been to the doctor once in six years.

This isn't about our ****ed up health care system though it's about the ****ed up illegal war our President waged. Did you know the cost of 10 minutes of the war in Iraq would fund the entire education system of Illinois for a week? Yet the Republican party is the party of fiscal responsibility.

Still though it's not about that. What it's about is our President and VP waging a war not for our freedom but for their own profit and the profit of their cohorts. Do you honestly think we are safer now then we were 5 years ago? Over 4000 of our best and brightest are dead for what? All we have done is drive the economy in the dirt, nearly break this country, and enrage an entire race and religion of people. Meanwhile people like Admin justify us holding people without the right to a lawyer and torturing them because some of them beheaded our troops? I thought America was better then that. We were the country that didn't that, when we fought we just kicked your ass, we didn't rape, pillage, and torture. Why are we suddenly below that and above the law of the Geneva convention? Which by the way has been around alot longer then this war.

However I'm not for executing our President, just get him out of office. He's a stubborn old mule that believe divinity has given him the right to do what he wants with no bounds of the law. Get him out before he goes into Iran and gets us in a real war with a real army against us, all the while our army is stretched thinner. Our President is dangerous and honestly he's a terrorist himself along with Cheany and Guliani. Listen to them talk "if we don't fight them there, we will be fighting them here." bull shit!If we'd put some real effort into homeland security we wouldn't have to worry about it. Then their is the systematic stripping of all of our rights. Our constitution has been ripped to shreds and it's going to get worse until Bush is gone.
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currently, 1 man, can and will, lead the way to change and that man, is Ron Paul
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1. Ron Paul is insane.

2. No, terrorists may not have signed the Geneva Convention, BUT... the US did. And in truth, it is not ok if you sign something but do not follow through with it, especially if you are a country.
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Old 01-21-2008, 08:24 PM
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This isn't about our ****ed up health care system though it's about the ****ed up illegal war our President waged.

Still though it's not about that. What it's about is our President and VP waging a war not for our freedom but for their own profit and the profit of their cohorts.
But people need to understand the "Our President" cannot declare a war...Only an act of congress can do that....He is just the person who is in charge of the military.


As for the profits....I think it is odd that I am paying double for a gallon of gas since our president took office and our president is a Texas oil man....coincidence?...
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