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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 11-13-2013, 05:53 PM Thread Starter
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I've come across a 2007 Chevy Cobalt SS/SC w/34k miles, 1 owner, and a clean Autocheck report. Only downfall so far is asking price. I currently own a 2007 Sunburst Orange Cobalt SS NA w/47k miles. The SS/SC has the optional High Rise spoiler, and is Black. Now, IF I can negotiate to the right price, would it be even worth trying to buy it?

I know it will all come down to just how badly do I want the car, but I would like to ask for opinionated input.

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Well, it does have less miles, a much easier engine to make power out of, but is worse on the mpgs. Insurance will probably be about the same, but parts may be a little more expensive. Other than that, I say decide weather you want power and speed or better gas mileage with ok speed.

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I've come across a 2007 Chevy Cobalt SS/SC w/34k miles, 1 owner, and a clean Autocheck report. Only downfall so far is asking price. I currently own a 2007 Sunburst Orange Cobalt SS NA w/47k miles. The SS/SC has the optional High Rise spoiler, and is Black. Now, IF I can negotiate to the right price, would it be even worth trying to buy it?

I know it will all come down to just how badly do I want the car, but I would like to ask for opinionated input.
If you don't buy the other ss I sure would! I want a sc car!
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post #4 of 20 (permalink) Old 11-13-2013, 06:45 PM
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Take the money you would use and put it into the one you got. be different


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You can't put regular gas in the SS/SC if that means anything. The SC has the FE5 suspension, which is superior to the FE3 in your N/A SS, so it will handle better in exchange for a slightly firmer ride. Black is a sweet color, however dirt and dust seem to stand out more against the paint, and it'll turn your car into a sauna when parked too long in the sun. Apart from that and the other pros and cons mentioned, that's all I can think of. In the end it's completely up to you.

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That's a good point. 9/10 times it's cheaper and more effective to mod your car than buy a new one and start over. If you use the money you'd spend on the SC and put it towards performance modifications for your current car (FI + other goodies) you would have no problem of dispatching that lsj. That is, of course, if your plans involve any kind of hp gains/racing. Again, it's your call.

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Actually, without building the engine internals on the 2.4 he wouldnt make enough to beat a mildly modded lsj. You forget the 2.4 has much higher compression and throwing boost at it really makes it unreliable as the internals were not designed for high compression boost applications and he would destroy the bottom end very easily.

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While I don't doubt you, I'm pretty sure the price of that SS/SC (10k +/-) when invested correctly would be enough to do the work necessary to build a reliable turbo FE5. However, I was running on the assumption that we'd be comparing to a stock LSJ. It's potential as an engine must be higher than that of the 2.4, so matching mod for mod, the SC would probably edge it out.

However, I'm not a tuner, and all this I base on my own educated guesses. I don't mind being wrong, so feel free to correct me. Afterall, you don't learn anything by being right.

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Yes for the money he'd spend upgrading to the 2.0 he'd probably be at a higher HP on the 2.4 (with the 2.0 stock). But the 2.4 in 2007 didn't have the forged internals and can only handle about 250 WHP (and even there you're pushing the limit) where as the 2.0 with just a few upgrades makes more power and should be more reliable. On top of that the 2.0 can be more efficient at cruise than the 2.4, normally a SC helps cruising MPG.

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Building the 2.4 to safely handle good boost amounts would cost around $4-5k, then the cost of the FI kits $1500-4000 (depending on the kit), tune, fuel system upgrades, ect, youd be right around $10K if you do the work. However, get the ss/sc, convert to turbo for a few grand, then blow the doors off all the rest of the balts.

In the end, it is ALWAYS cheaper to start a FI build on a car that had FI from the factory, if you want it safe with much more power.
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No arguments there. I hear those turbo'd LSJs are beasts.

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