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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 12-23-2013, 05:54 PM Thread Starter
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Question Engine and Trans Build on My Lnf

hey guys i want to get the zzp ecotec forged short block.. Any opinions on that block? i want to order is with 2.1l lnf direct injection gen 3, zzp neutral balance shafts, fidenza aluminum flywheel, ATI SFI turbo balancer, zzp 4340 rods, my question is what compression should i go with? wiseco pistons with 8.8:1 compression or wiseco pistons 9.5:1 compression ??? Also want to get the F40 6 Speed Transmission Conversion from zzp is the block i explained above comes with the fidenza flywheel i dont need the flywheel that comes with the 6 speed conversion kit correct? also why does the zzp 6 speed conversion kit only come with one stage 4 axle and not two? if i do that conversion will a LSD work with the kit?

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Do you want more torque?

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Both Yes. Looking To Push 550+ Whp Plus Whatever Torque I Can GetWith it

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I'd rather a set goal for tq than HP.

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Well if you want more torque go with higher compression. With the mods listed you should be good for that power, you are going to need a decent size turbo. Other than that you should be good

'09 SS/TC - Stolen
Mods - Injen CAI, CIA MAF Relocate CP's, Dejon FMIC,
Custom 3" DP, 3" Exhaust, GT3076R, Pioneer AVH-4100DVD, Hurst STS, ZZP triple pod, Autometer Cobalt boost/DPIC/WB gauges, Nitto NT05 245/40/18's, H&R Springs, 80:20 Meth Spray
Future - KSport Kontrol Pro Coilovers, 10% Tint, FMIC spray
538whp/501wtq @38 psi on meth and 93 oct on stock ish motor


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Mods - *Updated 10/6/13* AEM TRUboost EBC, 4in custom TBE, SD dual 93/e85 tune, ETS 4in Race Core FMIC, Dual Aeromotive 400lph Fuel Pumps, T4 Tubular Manifold w/ dual WG's, FP Super99HTZ DBB Turbo, GSC 274 mivec cams, ARP headstuds/rod studs, FIC 2150cc Injectors, Aeromotive FPR, Aeromotive Fuel Rail, catch can, Mini Battery Kit, Slim Coolant Fan, Kiggly Racing high pressure valve Springs/Titanium Retainers, Supertech Stainless Steel Valves, Dual VTA Tial 44mm WG's, 4g64 Stroker Manley Pistons, 155mm 2.4 LR Manley Turbo Plus I Beam Rods with ARP 625 Studs, 100mm forged non-billet Manley Crankshaft, Full H/E PNP with Port Matching, Kiggly Racing Girdle, Dual Tial 50mm BOV's, Excedy Triple Disc Carbon HD Clutch, AEM EMS

'95 Ram 2500 Diesel
Mods - 5in TBE, Boost Elbow set to 28psi, Adjusted fuel pump, Open Turbo.

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Not Sure How To Figure Torque Or Build Torque. What Would I Need To Do?

---------- Post added at 11:18 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:13 AM ----------

I Have Two Choices Of CompressioN 8.8:1 Or 9.5:1 From zzp. Or Get A Block From Fmsr. What Block Should I Get ZzpBlock That I Listed Or OnE From Fmsr And If Fmsr What One Cuz There Is Like 4 kinds

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Dont worry about torque. Torque only matters in transmissions and axles.

Id get the ZZP block and what not as everything will already be ready to go when you get it

'09 SS/TC - Stolen
Mods - Injen CAI, CIA MAF Relocate CP's, Dejon FMIC,
Custom 3" DP, 3" Exhaust, GT3076R, Pioneer AVH-4100DVD, Hurst STS, ZZP triple pod, Autometer Cobalt boost/DPIC/WB gauges, Nitto NT05 245/40/18's, H&R Springs, 80:20 Meth Spray
Future - KSport Kontrol Pro Coilovers, 10% Tint, FMIC spray
538whp/501wtq @38 psi on meth and 93 oct on stock ish motor


06 EVO IX MR/SE - Sold
Mods - *Updated 10/6/13* AEM TRUboost EBC, 4in custom TBE, SD dual 93/e85 tune, ETS 4in Race Core FMIC, Dual Aeromotive 400lph Fuel Pumps, T4 Tubular Manifold w/ dual WG's, FP Super99HTZ DBB Turbo, GSC 274 mivec cams, ARP headstuds/rod studs, FIC 2150cc Injectors, Aeromotive FPR, Aeromotive Fuel Rail, catch can, Mini Battery Kit, Slim Coolant Fan, Kiggly Racing high pressure valve Springs/Titanium Retainers, Supertech Stainless Steel Valves, Dual VTA Tial 44mm WG's, 4g64 Stroker Manley Pistons, 155mm 2.4 LR Manley Turbo Plus I Beam Rods with ARP 625 Studs, 100mm forged non-billet Manley Crankshaft, Full H/E PNP with Port Matching, Kiggly Racing Girdle, Dual Tial 50mm BOV's, Excedy Triple Disc Carbon HD Clutch, AEM EMS

'95 Ram 2500 Diesel
Mods - 5in TBE, Boost Elbow set to 28psi, Adjusted fuel pump, Open Turbo.

Future Mods- Super Street Clutch (rated @1400ftlbs tq), 67mm turbo, 160lb valve springs, added timing, tubular exhaust manifold, larger injectors, possible 6 spd swap.


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I Think Im Going To Get The F40 Trans From Fmsr With Everything Cryotreated And The Zzp 6 Speed Conversion Kit An The Quaife Lsd. You Think Thats Good For The Power And Torque Also Stage 4 Zzp axles

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Don't bother wasting money on the FMSR transmission, notice how zzp runs a stock one with 700+ to the wheels.

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If he has the $ to spend and wants to do it once then get the 6 speed. If not you'll always say that you should've done it that way to begin with.

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