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post #21 of 43 (permalink) Old 06-04-2014, 12:57 PM
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You shouldnt have to with the zzp kit.... also, your question mark is drunk...

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You shouldnt have to with the zzp kit.... also, your question mark is drunk...
Not drunk, Spanish lol

Can I get confirmation on this?

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Scanned through that pdf real quick. The block shaving is only for the automatic then?

If so I'm safe.

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I'm surprised you've never read through that, those are the instructions on ZZP's page.

I believe their kit just has some extra work into it to bolt on vs actually having to shave any parts.

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I appreciate you sharing that Andrew, but there's no way my ADD will allow me to go through all that lol.

I'm not a mechanic, I just drive.

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You shouldnt have to with the zzp kit.... also, your question mark is drunk...
The blower is the same, the tensioner pulley, everything is the same. you still have to shave part of the block off so the belt can run smoothly...
trust me.. i just did it.

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I can take pictures for you PJ....
But if you have the 2.2L , you have to shave part of the block.
It is only a little piece.. and it's not hard.


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Anddddd whats the difference between PJ's and my 2009? I know its not the same block but i didnt have to shave anything...! Because of his year model theres an clearance issue?


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I drive a manual 2006 L61. Completely stock motor if that helps any.

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05-06 L61 and LSJ's have Gen 1 blocks, all LE5, LNF, LAP's and 07-08 L61's are Gen 2 blocks. Essentially the sleeves are much stronger and coolant was added, gen 3 is much better than the previous two which either on a built engine I'd recommend sleeves (Mr. B on CSS).

L61's and LSJ's have regular DOHC cams (not the same head) where LE5's and LAP's share the same VVT on a DOHC head and the LNF has a different VVT head.

LSJ's are typically limited by their stock sleeves to around 400 to the wheels before stuff brakes but a bad tune will destroy it earlier, they hate detonation and will crack sleeves especially on a meth setup when the meth fails (most common failure). LNF's are limited by their rods to about 550-600 WHP but it's not too uncommon to see pistons go with a bad tune. The LE5 in 06-07 was forged and the most anyone's pushed them too was 406 WHP 47x wheel torque (forget exact torque number but it was in the 470's). L61's later than 07 LE5's and LAP's are known to go around 250-260 WHP/TQ by the little rods.

The most important thing at any power level is the tune, a bad one can destroy an engine at a much lower HP than normal.

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