...after graduating college did I experiment with imports and now I'm completely sold).
I own a Camry with 120K that never has a problem, a Honda with 195K that has almost no issues. If you change the oil and take care of the basic maintenance there are not any problems
You must have lost your way. You should post in a Toyota forum about your happiness.
Others haven't been as lucky, There's the sludge fiasco where Toyota kept blaming the customers for causing the sludge when the engine had deficiencies in design. There's the wear problem on brakes. There's the runaway engine problem where the brakes wouldn't work for some odd reason--would you want your daughter in that car? There's the supposed cure for that in the sticky accelerator pedals. There's the supposed cure for runaway acceleration with the floor mats.
And beyond all that is that Toyota was misreporting since 2002 to the NHSTA as to the uncontrolled acceleration events by categorizing them as short-lived and therefore they weren't noteworthy.
And then start asking about Corollas of the last few years.
I agree with Lutz in his book that many owners overlook flaws with their foreign products just because they dont' want to admit there is a flaw in the car which they have chosen for purchase.
Furthermore, there is a long standing discussion about fixes being performed on vehicles brought to the dealer for other services in the good old days while some of those brands were earning their "perfect" ratings from consumers because the consumers never knew of the "fixes" applied to their cars.
As far as I can tell they all have flaws. Even Consumer Reports doesn't recomend the latest Civic. Amazing turnabout despite their having nonrecommended other toyota products for a short time.
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Originally Posted by soccerfan
This Cobalt has had an ignition recall, a electric steering recall, a windshield washer fluid warmer recall, a fuel pump module that was not actually a recall but still replaced by the dealer no charge, a master cylinder that leaked fluid into the booster and was almost impossible to track down.
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This Cobalt has had an ignition recall, a electric steering recall, a windshield washer fluid warmer recall, a fuel pump module that was not actually a recall but still replaced by the dealer no charge, a master cylinder that leaked fluid into the booster and was almost impossible to track down. .
The electric steering motors have recalls just like Corolla's steering motors have been recalled. But the Cobalt gives a much better feel of the road than our friends 2008 (I believe) Corolla. That thing has had trouble keeping it's front bumper attached. Someone must have touched it backing into a space on the street parking downtown for the stage performance at the Schuster Theater and I noticed it had popped off partially. Years later, it still pops loose at the side.
My son's driving our 2008 Cobalt. Did the steering recall. Did a key cylinder or lock recall. He had it in Columbus staying near OSU campus while he worked downtown for the summer in a government office. Never faltered.
Tremendously cold air conditioning.
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I'd love to get rid of it before the next thing goes wrong, but I'm funding college and the only choice is to buy something older (and I don't want to face the daughter if I suggest that).
My advice to anyone who asks me about the cobalt is to buy a slightly older Honda/Toyota/Nissan. I own a Camry with 120K that never has a problem, a Honda with 195K that has almost no issues. If you change the oil and take care of the basic maintenance there are not any problems.....wish I could say the same for the Cobalt.......
I'd add that if I were concerned about a car I owned and I loved Honda and Toyota, I'd exchange it very rapidly for a car I felt my daughter were safe in. There would be no kvetching on forums about this and that. I'm sure your daughter would love that you cared about her to get her into a car that's super dependable and never has problems.
BTW, my Buick LeSabre has 185K miles with little in the way of problems through the 14 years. My other Buick leSabre is approaching 120K miles and is great after 8 years. I maintain all with oil changes, etc., myself. I bought both NEW. The Cobalt I bought used and have been extremely happy. I covered it with a long term warranty since I couldn't be sure of the previous ownership's care for the vehicle. Very inexpensive insurance.
Good luck to your daughter in college. It's a great experience in most cases.