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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 01-14-2013, 12:37 PM Thread Starter
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2008 Cobalt with P0411

Hey guys, purchased a 2008 2.2 with front end damage. The tube from the air cleaner to the air injection pump was bad and we replaced it. Keep getting a P0411 code for the air injection system. I already have done the following:

1) Test air pump relay
2) Test air solenoid relay
3) verified fuse are good
4) verified air pump runs
5) verified air solenoid operates
6) check for leaks

After all these tests I have cleared codes and with in 2-3 days it comes back. I have reviewed all the forums and googled this to wits end. Does anyone have any other suggestions? Thanks!
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Did you change the pump? It might have been damaged in the accident.

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No the pump was not changed. I did pull it and verify that there wasn't any damage. As well as jumping the relay for the pump. I can here the pump run and when I jump the relay for the solenoid it also works.
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Well P0411 is Secondary Air Injection (AIR) System Incorrect Air Flow Detected, so kink in the hose or bad pump.

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There is no kink in the hose and when I remove the hose to the check valve and manually operate the pump I feel a large amount of air being blown to the valve.
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Coby, according to the DTC list it says it is the secondary air injection system incorrect flow. Not insufficient. Maybe you're getting too much air from the pump or valve.

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Is there some sort of check valves or more to the air pump besides basically a fan blowing air?
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Is there some sort of check valves or more to the air pump besides basically a fan blowing air?
Oh yes lol . They should have rheostats built in to them to automatically adjust the fan speed to keep the same flow. If that was damaged, the pump wouldn't be regulated thus be throwing more air than needed.

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Oh okay. Thanks! I guess I will wait till the cel goes on again and then if it does pull the pump inspect and or replace.
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More than likely will be replace as 99% of rheostats are internal. Just some fyi. And you're welcome.

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Future - KSport Kontrol Pro Coilovers, 10% Tint, FMIC spray
538whp/501wtq @38 psi on meth and 93 oct on stock ish motor


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Mods - *Updated 10/6/13* AEM TRUboost EBC, 4in custom TBE, SD dual 93/e85 tune, ETS 4in Race Core FMIC, Dual Aeromotive 400lph Fuel Pumps, T4 Tubular Manifold w/ dual WG's, FP Super99HTZ DBB Turbo, GSC 274 mivec cams, ARP headstuds/rod studs, FIC 2150cc Injectors, Aeromotive FPR, Aeromotive Fuel Rail, catch can, Mini Battery Kit, Slim Coolant Fan, Kiggly Racing high pressure valve Springs/Titanium Retainers, Supertech Stainless Steel Valves, Dual VTA Tial 44mm WG's, 4g64 Stroker Manley Pistons, 155mm 2.4 LR Manley Turbo Plus I Beam Rods with ARP 625 Studs, 100mm forged non-billet Manley Crankshaft, Full H/E PNP with Port Matching, Kiggly Racing Girdle, Dual Tial 50mm BOV's, Excedy Triple Disc Carbon HD Clutch, AEM EMS

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Mods - 5in TBE, Boost Elbow set to 28psi, Adjusted fuel pump, Open Turbo.

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