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Engine Turning but No Explosion and Phantom Idle Issue, New Symptom

Hi all, sorry I have been a little busy with moving. I have 2 random issues.

1st Idol:
Before my idol was bouncing while coming to a stop and a throttle body and air filter clean all but solved that. Now with the weather and humidity I have turned the A/C on and voila its back! Only when the A/C runs..... Ideas?

2nd :
2days ago it.started. I turn they key, start assist kicks in, engine is turning but is struggling to fire. After second turn it finally kicks. Is this a symptom spark plugs, starter going, fuel pump? I just don't know and can't afford to replace it all.

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Sounds like you hit a bad batch of gasoline.

Start with the cheapest first, Spark plugs will run you under $40 under $30 if you shop around. If you are close to 100,000 miles you're due anyways.

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Thanks T! I can always count on you!

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Sea foam in the gas should help with that.

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Oooo seafoam. That's a good idea Levi! Tonight for 32 bucks and a 10 gas card rebateI replaced the plugs. Fortunately I didn't screw this one up. Haha. But it still isn't firing properly. I will try seafoam in the tank tomorrow, budget depending.

If that doesn't solve it am I looking at coil pack replacement time?

Also, I am not sure I understand how any of this would help my idle jumping like a Mexican Jumping bean wwhen coming to a stop with the A/C running.

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When A/C clutch is signaled to turn on the PCM also receives this signal. When it does it does two things It turns on fan 1 then it increments the throttle position actuator to compensate for the extra load on the engine and alternator.

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Oh, so this is normal opposed to abnormal. Nice! Thank the lord! The the Coby7 master. I have happily but in a broke sense dumped a lot of money into this car. I can't wait till its 100%.

I have some tech data I would love to have analyzed. I'll post it up shortly. One mystery is cylinder 1 has had 2 misfires.

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Before or after you changed the plugs?

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Started back a few weeks ago. Not plug related. A/C related lo

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Interior: Under Construction

Exterior Mods:
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Wind Deflectors

Engine Mods:
Vibrant Performance 4-2-1 Headers
Cold Air Intake w K&N Air Filter
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