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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 03-29-2016, 07:12 AM Thread Starter
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Intermediate Steering Shaft

Intermediate steering shaft has been replaced 3 times under warranty on my 2006 Pontiac G5 pursuit. Its been making the same noise for the last couple*of years and is now starting to bind even tough I have injected grease with a needlein the shaft.

My question is : Is there a way to diagnose this malfunction other than just drive the car and listen and feel the steering? can I measure a loose in the steering, is there a way to prove this part is 'shot' other than paying the stearlership to tell me what I already know

Trying to get GM to foot the bill for a fourth replacement, that part was a bad design from the start and is what I would consider a 'non wear item' . I have seen that Dorman has a new improved design on the market.

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Best way to check it is have somebody turn the steering side to side and you look at the lower universal joint. It should be a smooth movement with no jerking. When I installed mine 5 years ago I inserted a length of old bicycle tube over the U-joint, zip tied bought ends, then with a grease needle I filled it. I still have the same smooth intermediate shaft on the 2007, did the same thing to the 08 I sold. Plan on doing the same with the '10

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...the lower u joint being the one connected to the steering rack in the engine bay ?

Thanks Coby...the service rep at the stealership said I needed an appointment to have a tech 'measure' how loose the shaft is...that would cost me the same as buying a new shaft on Rockauto and installing it myself...

I'm just trying to make a point with GM that this badly designed part should be replaced under a recall because it could develop into a safety issue.......
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They won't do anything until a group lawsuit can prove it is the cause of deaths. I didn't bother and found a cure. Being where it is, it receives all the road grime possible. Salt and steel are not a good combination. Cupping it in grease stop the salt from reaching it for a while anyway. They protect the CV joint with a rubber boot they should have done the same for this joint.

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Had my son in the car turning the steering wheel and I could definitively feel that its loose...since it was replaced three times already, I had a case file open with GM Canada.. they asked me to get the dealer to diagnose the problem but this is what pisses me off...its about the same $$$ to get a diagnostic than it is to buy the part...I'll try a different dealer tomorrow and see if I can just get the service rep to put is hand on the u-joint while I turn the wheel so he can confirm to GM Canada that the steering shaft is bad..

Thanks Coby and I'll get back when I have an answer from GM
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Problem is, they are going to put the same type shaft. You need the revised version. I would bite the bullet on this one.

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Well.........just installed a DORMAN shaft that I got from ROCKAUTO for $80.00 (cad) instead of the $173.00 GM one. GM never wanted to 'supply' a free replacement even if this is the fourth one required for this car...answer was always that GM parts only have a 1 year warranty....fixed the problem myself with the new and, hopefully, improved version from DORMAN.
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Did you compare them side by side to see if there was a difference? What was the Dorman #? I'm going to need one for my 2010...

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DORMAN 425-109. Job took approx 1 hour..fitting that rubber boot correctly was the hardest part of the job.

Did have them side by side ..they looked the same but I did not really look closely for any difference...sorry...I just want that car to run for another year or two so I hope that this DORMAN shaft will last that long...

good luck with yours and thanks again COBY7 for all your advice on this forum...

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I should replace mine too. The rattle is driving me insane. Still using the original at 148,800 miles.

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