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post #1 of 31 (permalink) Old 01-03-2014, 05:09 PM Thread Starter
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SS brake upgrade

Ok, I know I had read this in another post, but I can't find it, so I am going to ask again

My LT has rear drum, 4 bolt pattern, I want to upgrade it to the rear disc, with the SS front brakes, I know this requires a swap over to the. 5 bolt wheels as well

Who has done this swap, what all do I need to get from the SS to make this swap, do the lines and cables need replaced? Are there any issues after the swap? Is the rear swing arm and brake assembly the same with the rear disc Lt as the SS?

I have a friend who works for a junkyard and says while the rear disc LTs come through all the time, he has only seen one SS, if the rear is the same, I'd have better luck getting one of those


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Which SS are you talking about? Because honestly the front brakes on a NA and LSJ SS are the same as the ones you have on your car, just slightly larger rotors. If you're asking about swapping the brembos from the TC, then you have quite a bit of work and money you are about to encounter.

And the rears are easy, just have to change out the rear axle basically.

'09 SS/TC - Stolen
Mods - Injen CAI, CIA MAF Relocate CP's, Dejon FMIC,
Custom 3" DP, 3" Exhaust, GT3076R, Pioneer AVH-4100DVD, Hurst STS, ZZP triple pod, Autometer Cobalt boost/DPIC/WB gauges, Nitto NT05 245/40/18's, H&R Springs, 80:20 Meth Spray
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Mods - *Updated 10/6/13* AEM TRUboost EBC, 4in custom TBE, SD dual 93/e85 tune, ETS 4in Race Core FMIC, Dual Aeromotive 400lph Fuel Pumps, T4 Tubular Manifold w/ dual WG's, FP Super99HTZ DBB Turbo, GSC 274 mivec cams, ARP headstuds/rod studs, FIC 2150cc Injectors, Aeromotive FPR, Aeromotive Fuel Rail, catch can, Mini Battery Kit, Slim Coolant Fan, Kiggly Racing high pressure valve Springs/Titanium Retainers, Supertech Stainless Steel Valves, Dual VTA Tial 44mm WG's, 4g64 Stroker Manley Pistons, 155mm 2.4 LR Manley Turbo Plus I Beam Rods with ARP 625 Studs, 100mm forged non-billet Manley Crankshaft, Full H/E PNP with Port Matching, Kiggly Racing Girdle, Dual Tial 50mm BOV's, Excedy Triple Disc Carbon HD Clutch, AEM EMS

'95 Ram 2500 Diesel
Mods - 5in TBE, Boost Elbow set to 28psi, Adjusted fuel pump, Open Turbo.

Future Mods- Super Street Clutch (rated @1400ftlbs tq), 67mm turbo, 160lb valve springs, added timing, tubular exhaust manifold, larger injectors, possible 6 spd swap.


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I thought all SS had the big brembos, apparently I was wrong...thanks for clearing that up

I know to get the whole axle, but do I need to change brake cables and the master cylinder?


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No, cables and lines should be good. Well, at the most, the ebrake cables may need changed (as drum and caliper ebrakes are different.

And yes, only the 08+ SS turbo had the brembos.

'09 SS/TC - Stolen
Mods - Injen CAI, CIA MAF Relocate CP's, Dejon FMIC,
Custom 3" DP, 3" Exhaust, GT3076R, Pioneer AVH-4100DVD, Hurst STS, ZZP triple pod, Autometer Cobalt boost/DPIC/WB gauges, Nitto NT05 245/40/18's, H&R Springs, 80:20 Meth Spray
Future - KSport Kontrol Pro Coilovers, 10% Tint, FMIC spray
538whp/501wtq @38 psi on meth and 93 oct on stock ish motor


06 EVO IX MR/SE - Sold
Mods - *Updated 10/6/13* AEM TRUboost EBC, 4in custom TBE, SD dual 93/e85 tune, ETS 4in Race Core FMIC, Dual Aeromotive 400lph Fuel Pumps, T4 Tubular Manifold w/ dual WG's, FP Super99HTZ DBB Turbo, GSC 274 mivec cams, ARP headstuds/rod studs, FIC 2150cc Injectors, Aeromotive FPR, Aeromotive Fuel Rail, catch can, Mini Battery Kit, Slim Coolant Fan, Kiggly Racing high pressure valve Springs/Titanium Retainers, Supertech Stainless Steel Valves, Dual VTA Tial 44mm WG's, 4g64 Stroker Manley Pistons, 155mm 2.4 LR Manley Turbo Plus I Beam Rods with ARP 625 Studs, 100mm forged non-billet Manley Crankshaft, Full H/E PNP with Port Matching, Kiggly Racing Girdle, Dual Tial 50mm BOV's, Excedy Triple Disc Carbon HD Clutch, AEM EMS

'95 Ram 2500 Diesel
Mods - 5in TBE, Boost Elbow set to 28psi, Adjusted fuel pump, Open Turbo.

Future Mods- Super Street Clutch (rated @1400ftlbs tq), 67mm turbo, 160lb valve springs, added timing, tubular exhaust manifold, larger injectors, possible 6 spd swap.


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Need the rear axle hubs brake lines and ebrake cables

---------- Post added at 07:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:27 PM ----------

I've done it
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Why the lines?

'09 SS/TC - Stolen
Mods - Injen CAI, CIA MAF Relocate CP's, Dejon FMIC,
Custom 3" DP, 3" Exhaust, GT3076R, Pioneer AVH-4100DVD, Hurst STS, ZZP triple pod, Autometer Cobalt boost/DPIC/WB gauges, Nitto NT05 245/40/18's, H&R Springs, 80:20 Meth Spray
Future - KSport Kontrol Pro Coilovers, 10% Tint, FMIC spray
538whp/501wtq @38 psi on meth and 93 oct on stock ish motor


06 EVO IX MR/SE - Sold
Mods - *Updated 10/6/13* AEM TRUboost EBC, 4in custom TBE, SD dual 93/e85 tune, ETS 4in Race Core FMIC, Dual Aeromotive 400lph Fuel Pumps, T4 Tubular Manifold w/ dual WG's, FP Super99HTZ DBB Turbo, GSC 274 mivec cams, ARP headstuds/rod studs, FIC 2150cc Injectors, Aeromotive FPR, Aeromotive Fuel Rail, catch can, Mini Battery Kit, Slim Coolant Fan, Kiggly Racing high pressure valve Springs/Titanium Retainers, Supertech Stainless Steel Valves, Dual VTA Tial 44mm WG's, 4g64 Stroker Manley Pistons, 155mm 2.4 LR Manley Turbo Plus I Beam Rods with ARP 625 Studs, 100mm forged non-billet Manley Crankshaft, Full H/E PNP with Port Matching, Kiggly Racing Girdle, Dual Tial 50mm BOV's, Excedy Triple Disc Carbon HD Clutch, AEM EMS

'95 Ram 2500 Diesel
Mods - 5in TBE, Boost Elbow set to 28psi, Adjusted fuel pump, Open Turbo.

Future Mods- Super Street Clutch (rated @1400ftlbs tq), 67mm turbo, 160lb valve springs, added timing, tubular exhaust manifold, larger injectors, possible 6 spd swap.


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When I'm not on my phone I'll give a better answer, I've personally done the brembo swap and am working on the rear disk swap and know what's needed.

---------- Post added at 02:17 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:39 AM ----------

Depending on what wheels you want to run I'd now recommend you get the ZZP brake kit, you'll get Brembo calipers and larger rotors although the minimum wheel size is now 18'' instead of the 17'' I run for the winter.

I started at 4x100, steel wheels and stock brakes lowered on YYZ V.3 springs, Koni shocks/struts and a Powell hardcore rear swaybar. Also the stock base body and an awful looking exhaust tip but nice sounding exhaust.






When a wheel bearing started to go bad at 54k miles I made the decision to buy the 5 lug wheel bearings and bought a set of Ion Redline wheels.

Decided since I had to switch the brakes to skip past the LSJ brakes and to buy the Brembo conversion kit from CED as well as color matched mirror caps and a set of 5 mm spacers (needed to have the clearance for the brembo calipers to wheels). Then lug nuts, wheel bearings and drum brakes and shoes with the 5 lug pattern for the back from rockauto.

Painted the drums black so their not too noticeable either.



Later picked up a SS body kit as well as SS seats and full interior power conversion with all black interior panels (power conversion not yet complete), still need to drill and put on SS sides. Have a set of SS/TC wheels as well as PF01's, the IRL wheels are not stripped and polished serving winter duty. Exhaust doesn't look too bad now.









To finish the rear I now have powell's brackets to mount the disk calipers (using SS/TC rear calipers and disks) need to buy some different hardline or make my own and need a new ebrake cable.

Also working on a turbo kit that I have all the big components for (EFR 6758, Treadstone TR12 intercooler, TTR intake manifold, Werks EFR turbo exhaust manifold, hallman pro manual boost controler, MPX catch can and Treadstone intake) but still need about $1k in parts to complete it (mainly gauges).

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Soon to come- EFR 6758 turbo kit and make Retro Headlights.

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Ok, so if I don't swap to the brembos in the front, I need the complete rear axle, cables, and brake lines, does the master cylinder need changed too?

With the brembo swap, I need the knuckles, calipers, rotors and hubs

Please let me know if I missed something


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Memphis 16-MCH600 "Baby Belle" hybrid amplifier
MB quart Premium 6.5" componant/premium tweeters front
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On the rears, the only brake line u keep (the flexible ones) is the one coming off the body of the car onto the rear beam, the one coming from the beam I caliper needs to be one from a 2.4 or 2.0lsc, unless u want Tc rear breaks then u need the one for Tc brakes.

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And u don't need a rear axle,
Could buy powells rear disc conversion kit

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Would still need hubs, calipers, rotors, brake line( coming from beam to caliper)
Ebrake cables, I never had to do anything to my
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