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SS/TC Suspension but at Base "4x4" Stance?

I want the SS/TC suspension, but I want it at the base 4x4 height. I've read that it lowers it 10mm, I've also read that from base to SS/TC is actually almost 2", either way I don't want the drop.


1.) Is it the strut/shock or the springs that causes the drop, I've always assumed it's the spring.

2.) If You swap out for ss/tc struts and shocks, but get a spring that maintains Base height but with the same spring rate as the ss/tc, will the strut/shocks perform the same? Or are the shocks/struts designed for the drop?

3.) Can anyone, with certainty, tell me the spring rates for the front and rear SS/TC? I've read 154 front, 160-228lbs progressive rear, but I can't confirm. That would seem soft considering the way everyone says it handles better.


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Unless you go out have have a custom spring made you're not getting 08-10 FE5 without lowering the car a little. Go look at pictures of stock SS/TC cars since they made them in both sedan and coupe you can get a good idea of how much lower it is.

They shocks/struts are valved better with a stiffer spring and you won't get much besides a harsher ride if you leave FE1 in with FE5 shocks/struts.

I could text powell for the rates but I know he has them posted somewhere I'll try and look.

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Unless you go out have have a custom spring made you're not getting 08-10 FE5 without lowering the car a little. Go look at pictures of stock SS/TC cars since they made them in both sedan and coupe you can get a good idea of how much lower it is.

They shocks/struts are valved better with a stiffer spring and you won't get much besides a harsher ride if you leave FE1 in with FE5 shocks/struts.

I could text powell for the rates but I know he has them posted somewhere I'll try and look.
Thanks, but I don't want to leave FE1 springs in, I want to put "taller" springs with the same rates as the SS/TC springs. There's a ton of springs made by a bunch of different companies for racing/lowering/lifting just about any car made... I just have to know what to look for!

And that would be awesome if you could find the rates, you'd think it would be readily available information

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My I ask why you want to keep the stock FE1 ride height? If it's clearance you're worried about, the FE5 setup (shocks & springs) will do fine unless you wanna tackle Moab or something. I have FE5 shocks and Pedders springs and have only gotten badly stuck twice that I can remember and both times it was due to ice freezing around and under my car locking me in place. I'd recommend carrying a shovel and a good set of traction aids if your winters are particularly harsh like mine.

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My I ask why you want to keep the stock FE1 ride height? If it's clearance you're worried about, the FE5 setup (shocks & springs) will do fine unless you wanna tackle Moab or something. I have FE5 shocks and Pedders springs and have only gotten badly stuck twice that I can remember and both times it was due to ice freezing around and under my car locking me in place. I'd recommend carrying a shovel and a good set of traction aids if your winters are particularly harsh like mine.
If there's snow, then I take the SUV which has shovel/ax/recovery gear/etc. I want to keep FE1 ride height because I take it places where it needs it, it's that simple. I want the better handling characteristics of the TC setup, that way I can push the car harder on pavement and washboard gravel roads.

A quote from a passenger last weekend:

"Man, you're nuts, I wouldn't take my truck up here"



Thanks for the input though!
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The ss suspension isnt insanely lower than base. I don't think it would cause too much trouble with base bumpers beinghigher up

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Out of curiousity does anyone have a base LS/LT on FE5 shocks/springs combo, a pic request? That or the eibach pro kit is lowest i'd go as I have a big ass ZZP resonator sticking low. Otherwise i'd look into YYZ's

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I literally just about walked outside to take a picture for you, but then realized my car is getting a new exhaust welded on. I will try and get you a picture later today. I am on FE5 (lnf) springs and Konis. They aren't low, but they handle well.

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Sorry for the bad pictures since its still raining but here they are.
Its definitely lower, even though it doesn't look like much, but it also handles a million times better. (Ignore the ugly wheels that need to be painted or replaced)


This is front wheel gap (tough to get a picture of measurement)

And this is the rear wheel gap.

It also sits more level than it did with fe1 springs

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Looks about the same it did on my FE5/Pedders setup. People would never know it was lowered unless you told them.

Of course I don't particularly like using the term 'lowered', since these springs are not for low, but rather for handling.

Stock 2.2s do look like monster trucks to me now tbh

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