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Drum & Shoe Replacement Options?

I'm getting pretty close to replacing my brakes, and for the front, I'm planning on getting Hawk HPS pads and some decent plain rotors (maybe Raybestos). I haven't seen any suggestions for drums/shoes. What would you guys go with? Suggestions for front rotors would definitely be helpful too.


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I went with the ACDelco Professional Durastop front rotors and rear drums, and the ACDelco Advantage ceramic front pads and bonded rear shoes. I have 12k on them now, and for 200$ for new rotors, drums, pads and shoes, they have worked pretty well.
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I'm in the process of modding the engine, and wanted to get the brakes to match (or outperform), which is why I'm going with the Hawk HPS pads. I didn't see any shoes by Hawk, so maybe I'll look into ACDelco for them.


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The drums contribute so little to the overall vehicle braking, as long as you buy something that isn't complete junk, you'll be plenty fine.

I think I did Raybestos or Centric drums and Centric shoes. AC Delco is generally more than fine - I think I did those for the Cav's drums - OEM parts, so they're not garbage.

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I read that if you got a good drum brake kit, it'd actually do something, lol

I didn't see Raybestos drums, but I'll look again. Thanks, MP

EDIT: There's literally an entire brake drum category on their website. No idea how I missed it the first time.


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Nah, you'd need to go bigger to improve anything. And you get about one-two hard stops out of a drum brake, before they fade and then do nothing - that's why old cars with four-wheel drums were particularly terrifying.

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Well, I knew 4 wheel drum brakes were a bad idea (although you're obviously limited by the tech of your time), but I had no idea they faded so quickly. Probably "used them up" the one time I forgot to turn off the parking brake as a teenager, lol. I didn't get far before the warning noise kicked on, but still...


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Oh yeah, 4-wheel drums made panic stops quite terrifying.

Rear drums don't see much pressure off the proportioning valve compared to the front discs, so they really won't be noticeably fading.

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http://www.amazon.com/Raybestos-580137-Advanced-Technology-Brake/dp/B000C6WJ3I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1450198026&sr=8-1&keywords=580137 are the rotors you have, right MP? I've got the 4-lug non-ABS brakes, and wanna make sure these'll fit.


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Yup, those are what I have.

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