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So on my stock headlights, the lenses are getting pretty bad, the seal is cracked so they fog, i like the look of projectors (especially black with clear lens), parts of my stock headlight housings are cracked, and i'd rather just buy new headlights than take them apart, paint, polish, retrofit, etc. Therefore - I am looking to buy a pair of projector headlights and possibly throw hid's in. I'm kind of clueless when it comes to this, and from my searches I feel a little overwhelmed. Can anybody make any recommendations on the projectors, hid kit, where to buy, etc? Appreciate the help in advance!
 

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http://www.yourcobalt.com/forums/interior-exterior-styling/16194-different-generations-projectors.html
Ebay is a good place to look for projector headlights. What kind you get is up to you :toung: Although I've read the headlights with halos have been known to have the halos burn out. As for the hid kit as long as you don't get something really cheap you probably will be fine. I've bought mine from buyhids.com and I think quite a few people buy from DDM tuning too. Another one I know of is theretrofitsource.com, although they are a little more expensive.
 

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what about the depo gen 4's on ebay with hid preinstalled??? they dont have halos or leds, so nothing to worry about burning out. Also I think they're basically just drop in - no retrofitting or anything... and they're only like 250... what you think?
 

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Like I said in the other forum....

Don't go with it if it only comes with an 8,000k HID kit. You could always swap the bulbs later for 4,300k. 8,000k may look brighter, but they're actually not. Trying to drive with "blue light," especially in fog and rain, will make driving at night very unpleasant. Based on my research, the Gen 4 Depos are the best aftermarket halogen projectors, but don't expect night and day results. It's doing research on Google and HID Planet, comparing output shots, watching YouTube videos, and asking questions that convinced me to retrofit. It's retrofits that will get you very close, if not better, to the performance of HID systems on luxury cars. You can't get NEAR that by sticking an HID kit in your reflector housing or buying a set of projector headlights that were designed for halogens.

Let me break down the performance.

*HID Kit in Stocks < Halogens in Stocks < **Aftermarket Projector Headlights < Retrofit with Mini H1 Bi-Xenon Projectors < Retrofit with FX-R Bi-Xenon Projectors

*Sticking HIDs in a reflector housing designed for halogens WILL result in excessive glare and improper light distribution. People often aim their headlights "down" reduce the intensity to oncoming drivers. This also results in "too much" light up close and not enough in the distance.

**Some aftermarket projector headlights may perform better than others, depending if they are Gen 1, Gen 2, Gen 3, or Gen 4 models. Sticking HID kits in these projectors, which are obviously meant for halogens, may or may not improve the overall performance and proper light distribution. Excessive foreground light may result in difficulty seeing in the distance where the majority of the light is needed.
 

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I have the gen 4 with 6k. More than enough light out put and is really close to a "white" i rarely get flashed at. In my opinion they are the most asthetically pleasing out of all the gen's.
 

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Bought then from another member for 200 I think... Don't really remember anymore but it was the projector, 6 and 8k hids, both sets with ballasts all ready to roll. He said he bought the housing and sent them to buy hids to be retro fitted.
 

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so i think i've decided to get the gen4 depo projectors and a ddm hid kit separate
Depo Gen 4
DDM Hid
With the DDM hid kit I have a few questions...

#1 - Is 55w going to be better than 35w (Extra $10 - whats the difference)

#2 - What's the "dual in-dual" out harness for?

#3 - Do i need an error eliminator? I dont think I have a bulb out warning light, so this shouldn't do anything, right?

#4 - Adaptor cable - only option is H1/H7 to 9006... ???

#5 - How necessary are mounting brackets??

Thanks again for all the help everybody!
 

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Your answer to #1 is in the link you provided!!

What is the difference between 55w and 35w kits?
Our 55w HID kits are 40% brighter than the standard 35w kits.
The 55W system ballasts are about 1 cm longer than the 35W ballasts.
55w kits tend to wash out some of the color of the HID bulb due to the light output( for example, a 55w 8000k will look similar in color to a 35w 6000k kit).
Our 55w HID Kit is not recommended for smaller fog light housings because they tend to concentrate a large amount of heat in a small area.

#2dual in dual out is just saying it's plug and play

#3You will not need an error eliminator, but it looks like one comes with the ballast kit.

#4 whats your question?

#5 Your headlight housing should come ready to bolt in.
 

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Between 35w and 55w - i understand 55w is brighter a slightly different color, but is it safe to run 55w (melt/burn part of the headlight)? also does one last longer than the other?
My question about the adapter - do i need this? Factory lights are 9006...
Lastly the mounting brackets are for the ballasts.... just wondering if they're necessary or if there is a different/better way to mount them
 

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Are you running projectors? If so dont worry about burning the headlight.

You will need the adaptor unless you plan on doing some wiring, hence the PnP.

You dont NEED the brackets for the ballasts. Mine sit right behind the housing, others put it under the housing bracket, some put velcro on the inside of the body and do it that way. But the bracket is not necessary.
 
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