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I didnt know where to put this, so i figured i'd ask here.

I'm interested in about 1 year's time on purchasing a cobalt, and i like to plan ahead. I'm new to the car scene altogether-ive actually never owned a car. I traded off and on between a few Silverados, a few S10's, an F-250 in there some where. Now im looking at finishing school and getting a nice economical car to do so. After some research, i think i really like the Cobalt, but i have a few questions...

-What kind of MPG are people getting real world stock? I'm looking at the base model cobalt-i only really want an auto with cruise.

-What kind of room is in the front? I could care less about the back seat. I'm 6'4" and i actually had the opportunity to sit in a coupe cobalt with an auto, and it wasnt TOO bad...but i just cant remember what it was like-lol

-Longevity..What kind of mileage can i expect out of this car? My Silverado right now has 115,000 and my S10 has 120,000. I want to easily get that. I'm just curious who has the most miles on there car with the auto.

-Snow tires...i live in Buffalo NY and every year i purchase a set of studded snows. Anybody have problems finding snows? (if you use them)

-Highway driving...comfortable? I drive ALOT of highway driving. My girlfriend now lives 35 miles one way from my house, my school is a good 3 miles one way, work is half way there. Are these cars comfortable? Or do they really hurt your ass?

I really appreciate any info you may have. I may be a year away from buying one, but your info defenitely helps.
 

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well as for front room, I'm only 5'10" but my father's 6'2" and he fit comfortably, and I have plenty of extra room. my MPG is somewhere around 25 mix about 50-50, but i have the worst MPG I've seen, IDK. That's all I can answer personally, but Cobalts are great, just as with any car I'd expect a good life as long a standard maintenance is done and things are replaced when they need to be. "Take car of your car, and it'll take care of you." oh and as for highway driving, some people say it has an amazingly quiet cabin but I notice some road/wind noise, but nothing too outrageous. Cobalts = win!:bigsmile:
 

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You wouldnt believe the wind noise a stripped Silverado has. I can barely talk over a windy day sometimes. This is good to know!!!!

I am maticulous about maintenance too...although i now change the oil with the "Change Engine Oil" message now, instead of my old 3000. Whenever i buy a vehicle i give it a full tune up, no matter what (plugs, cap, rotor)

btw...are these engines similar to the "Distributorless Ignition" on the 2.2L S10's? Easy as hell to tune up, but once you got the coils wet, you were done.
 

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I purposely rent Cobalts when I go places just because It is nicer to drive a car you already know where all the controls are...LoL! I've driven Cobalts as much as 900 miles in one day (including mine) and never had a complaint (6'2") about comfort and neither has my wife...who has to drive with me...LoL!

I've always gotten more than 30 MPG (the 08 XFEs did get a LOT more -- 34+ average) on the open highways and in town average around 25-26 MPG. I hope to be getting an 09 next month on my next trip.
 

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They are nice cars, Room is not a problem. Im 6'2 and fit fine. Gas mileage is great as long as you dont punch it all the time, i see about 25 in the city and 30+ highway. You wouldn't have a problem finding snow tires for it, between this site and cobaltss.net youcan find them all the time. Snow tires are a must, i to live in buffalo and they help alot.
 

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I'm the type of person that would buy a car without options, so i could do it myself and make sure its done the way i want (fog lights, remote start, power locks) Easy to do on these vehicles? I would probably pay to have the remote start installed, but at least i can install things like fog likes, etc.

I also do, like the idea of a touch screen LCD (that is, if i dont find a cobalt with CD/MP3 capability.

Oh, another question...stock radio swaps...dont you have to have it reprogrammed at a dealer? I heard about this on the newer silverados (03-up) because of the DIC
 

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i'm 6'2" and its comfortable. The seat can still go back a little bit

i did the electric locks and its not too complicated, just takes awhile.

26 in the city, 32-42 on the highway, 27 average
 

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yeah im 6-3 and i love the leg room in my cobalt. its the only car ive had where i dont have the seat pushed all the way back. on long drives like 800 miles or so, i get back pain. but i think that is due more to the fact that i beat the shit out of it when i was younger.:laugh:. but the driver seat has an elevation lever. and by playing with that it goes away. gas economy is great. i get about 28 mpg in town. and 31+ on the highway. at 55 mph the mpg goes even higher. as far as longevity goes. im not sure. the most ive heard someone having is 70,000+. but the ecotec is a good motor. with regular maintenance, it should last a long time.
 

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Well good news is, my credit is on its way up. I just pulled a credit score to see, and im at a 732. Last year it was in the 630 range, but thats because i JUST got my first credit card in Jan.2007

So i'll be looking forward to a lower interest rate this time. I'm still VERY interested in the Cobalt.

Of course ive asked around too, and you got the people who swear the Cobalt is a glued together piece of garbage, but then you look at what they drive. One guy told me the Coablt is the worst car ever made, then he drove off it a 95 Ford Taurus with a "Type R" decal glued on the side. Give me a break.

Here's a couple things people brought up, idk if they're true, just checking with the REAL owners....

1.) Steering Knuckles...are they really prone to breakage? I dont beat on cars EVER, so i assumed that people who did snap them really beat the piss out of their cars.

2.) Wind Noise/Drag...i guess on the thruway when you pass trucks, it feels like its going to flip over/explode? This could all be morons who dont know how to drive anyway.

I could care less about back seat room really. I drive a truck now, and it only seats 3 people anyway :)
 

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Here's a couple things people brought up, idk if they're true, just checking with the REAL owners....

1.) Steering Knuckles...are they really prone to breakage? I dont beat on cars EVER, so i assumed that people who did snap them really beat the piss out of their cars.

2.) Wind Noise/Drag...i guess on the thruway when you pass trucks, it feels like its going to flip over/explode? This could all be morons who dont know how to drive anyway.
1. I've been on several Cobalts sites regularly for 2.5 years and never saw a post about someone breaking a steering knuckle. I have read in technical reviews of a Cobalt breaking a steering knuckle on a road course in serious racing -- that is why Chevy provides a performance upgrade for those that race them.

2. It is a small car -- and like ALL small cars you can feel a crosswind, but, having been on the interstate in blizzards and sunshine I haven't felt "Out-of-Control" once.
 

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Plenty of room in the front but a telescoping steering wheel would be real nice.
There is some wind noise but not more than others in the class.
No stability issues on the freeway but my tires get caught in the grooves-maybe a tire issue but my last set did the same thing (maybe only a Cali issue).
Steering sucks. Not happy with the front end at all. Maybe they fixed this issue but they couldnt fix mine properly.
Interior can have poor fit and finish, especially that jagged piece of plastic along the dash where it meets the center stack. I have test drove some that were worse than others. Maybe you should make sure it isn't built on a Friday or Monday (ah, unions).
Getting 24.5 MPG mixed city and freeway.
 

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I'm really really interested in the cobalt in about a year...

Is there any feature the car offers that, if you could do again, you'd get? I am buying used, but very low miles.

I defenitely want to get:
-Traction Control (Without it is only one wheel pulling?)
-Cruise-CD/MP3 (I have many head units, all CD/MP3 and one an HD Radio, but i want it to stay stock this time to match the car)
-Base Wheels (For summer if i really wanna go out, i'd pick up a set of decent rims..i think i have to get the tire pressure sensor installed though)
-Sunroof (MAYBE)
-Coupe 2-door (It feels like they have more entry room)
 

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I'm really really interested in the cobalt in about a year...

Is there any feature the car offers that, if you could do again, you'd get? I am buying used, but very low miles.

I defenitely want to get:
-Traction Control (Without it is only one wheel pulling?)
-Cruise-CD/MP3 (I have many head units, all CD/MP3 and one an HD Radio, but i want it to stay stock this time to match the car)
-Base Wheels (For summer if i really wanna go out, i'd pick up a set of decent rims..i think i have to get the tire pressure sensor installed though)
-Sunroof (MAYBE)
-Coupe 2-door (It feels like they have more entry room)
Traction control + automatic = FTL...it does not "control" traction -- if your wheels start to spin it reduces engine power by retarding timing and selectively shutting down fuel to stop the wheel spin...and it lasts long enough for Granny to get by you in a yugo...LoL!
Limited slip differential is only available on the SS/SC/TC
Cruise...Yes!!!
Coupe...if you drive it as a 2-seater it's fine. If you have family or friends that use the back seats 4-door is a lot better. Coupe's doors open very wide so watch other people's cars in the parking lot!
 

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ya what he says about the doors on the coupe is true! :laugh: also hold on tight on windy days. likes to come right out of your hand! if you go for an ss. ive heard nothing good about the sunroof as far as your options are concerned. leaks water, wind etc.but im not sure if you can get the lsd on a non sunroof ss. :wondering:
 

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You know what, after test driving 3 new Cobalts and seeing the horrendous fit and finish and obvious flaws in putting the car together I would rather see the Cobalt replacement (don't make me say the name) built somewhere other than Lordstown.
Its obvious the workers couldn't care less about the car or the company. GM should never have rewarded those lazy, careless lardasses another car to build.
Absolutely disgraceful.
 

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As of right now I have on '05 cobalt base sedan with 112.5k miles and climbing

I've had 3 intermediate steering shafts, a compressor and a new column (electric steering fail)

but other than that (drivetrain wise) it's very solid


now have an awful popping sound coming from front end... cant decide if it's ball joints or the steering shaft again but all in all it's an extremely well built car that can take alot of abuse.. I see 5k rpm everyday delivering food, I love those gun-shot like high rpm shifts that gm autos have...

enough babbling just thought i'd drop my 112k info since it seems high compared to most
 

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Ok, im back...let me explain a little on why im back to the cobalt...

I was interested in the Chevy Impala for awhile. I've rented 2 from Enterprise for weekend trips and loved the cars from day one. The problem is, im a college student, and i just payed off 4 years for a truck i could barely afford ($275 a month).

On top of that, Impala's have the 4T65e...which has been plagued with problems since 1996. We actually owned a Lumina with that same tranny...nothing but problems.

Impala's also have 4-wheel disc brakes, and any silverado owner can tell you how its a terrible idea in the rust belt. I've replaced a set of rear brakes every year to my S10's 1 ever 3 years (drums).

I came back now, to the cobalt, because its almost like you can get more features, for less money. The cheapest Impala comes with a column shifter, and i HATE column shifters in cars (i like floor console better) and all cobalts come with that.

My last concern with the cobalts, is the room. And 6 foot 3 guys in here have problems with a coupe?
 

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I didnt know where to put this, so i figured i'd ask here.

I'm interested in about 1 year's time on purchasing a cobalt, and i like to plan ahead. I'm new to the car scene altogether-ive actually never owned a car. I traded off and on between a few Silverados, a few S10's, an F-250 in there some where. Now im looking at finishing school and getting a nice economical car to do so. After some research, i think i really like the Cobalt, but i have a few questions...

-What kind of MPG are people getting real world stock? I'm looking at the base model cobalt-i only really want an auto with cruise.

-What kind of room is in the front? I could care less about the back seat. I'm 6'4" and i actually had the opportunity to sit in a coupe cobalt with an auto, and it wasnt TOO bad...but i just cant remember what it was like-lol

-Longevity..What kind of mileage can i expect out of this car? My Silverado right now has 115,000 and my S10 has 120,000. I want to easily get that. I'm just curious who has the most miles on there car with the auto.

-Snow tires...i live in Buffalo NY and every year i purchase a set of studded snows. Anybody have problems finding snows? (if you use them)

-Highway driving...comfortable? I drive ALOT of highway driving. My girlfriend now lives 35 miles one way from my house, my school is a good 3 miles one way, work is half way there. Are these cars comfortable? Or do they really hurt your ass?

I really appreciate any info you may have. I may be a year away from buying one, but your info defenitely helps.
real world i see about 26-30 mpg in the portland oregon area. lots of stop and go. highway speeds its in the high 30's.

room in the front, i couldnt be happier! im 6'3" and its the only car that ive owned that i dont have to put the seat all the way back. i like mine about 3 settings from the back! downfall is wind likes to try and rip your door off! coupe btw.

longevity.. im not sure. the ecotec is supposed to be very strong. with regular maintenance the engine should last a long time. i only have 33,000 miles. but it still feels strong.

i bought mine in montana for a commuter car, and put unstudded snow tires on. i used to drive almost 350 miles one way to work in the snow at 3:00 in the morning, before the plows were out. and in my cobalt in second gear i was cruising. no issues with traction what so ever. so with studded tires=no prob. as long as you know how to drive in the snow.

as far as long driving goes, ive kicked my backs ass.
army, football, and a life time of skateboarding. but i can drive my cobalt for about 6 hours before it starts to bother me. the car has an elevation adjustment(which usually helps) as well as the normal adjustments.

hope i helped you out.
BTW....GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!! ive been a fan since 1988!
what do you think of them signing terrel owens? GRRRRRR
 

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sorry i just realized i answered your old questions. at least one was pertinent.
if you want four wheel disc brakes, you dont want a base model.(get a ss/tc :bigsmile: i would if i could do it all over again!) and i havent had any problems with my tranny (manual). not sure about the #.
 
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