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Intermediate steering shaft has been replaced 3 times under warranty on my 2006 Pontiac G5 pursuit. Its been making the same noise for the last couple*of years and is now starting to bind even tough I have injected grease with a needlein the shaft.

My question is : Is there a way to diagnose this malfunction other than just drive the car and listen and feel the steering? can I measure a loose in the steering, is there a way to prove this part is 'shot' other than paying the stearlership to tell me what I already know

Trying to get GM to foot the bill for a fourth replacement, that part was a bad design from the start and is what I would consider a 'non wear item' . I have seen that Dorman has a new improved design on the market.

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Best way to check it is have somebody turn the steering side to side and you look at the lower universal joint. It should be a smooth movement with no jerking. When I installed mine 5 years ago I inserted a length of old bicycle tube over the U-joint, zip tied bought ends, then with a grease needle I filled it. I still have the same smooth intermediate shaft on the 2007, did the same thing to the 08 I sold. Plan on doing the same with the '10
 

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...the lower u joint being the one connected to the steering rack in the engine bay ?

Thanks Coby...the service rep at the stealership said I needed an appointment to have a tech 'measure' how loose the shaft is...that would cost me the same as buying a new shaft on Rockauto and installing it myself...

I'm just trying to make a point with GM that this badly designed part should be replaced under a recall because it could develop into a safety issue.......
 

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They won't do anything until a group lawsuit can prove it is the cause of deaths. I didn't bother and found a cure. Being where it is, it receives all the road grime possible. Salt and steel are not a good combination. Cupping it in grease stop the salt from reaching it for a while anyway. They protect the CV joint with a rubber boot they should have done the same for this joint.
 

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Had my son in the car turning the steering wheel and I could definitively feel that its loose...since it was replaced three times already, I had a case file open with GM Canada.. they asked me to get the dealer to diagnose the problem but this is what pisses me off...its about the same $$$ to get a diagnostic than it is to buy the part...I'll try a different dealer tomorrow and see if I can just get the service rep to put is hand on the u-joint while I turn the wheel so he can confirm to GM Canada that the steering shaft is bad..

Thanks Coby and I'll get back when I have an answer from GM
 

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Problem is, they are going to put the same type shaft. You need the revised version. I would bite the bullet on this one.
 

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Well.........just installed a DORMAN shaft that I got from ROCKAUTO for $80.00 (cad) instead of the $173.00 GM one. GM never wanted to 'supply' a free replacement even if this is the fourth one required for this car...answer was always that GM parts only have a 1 year warranty....fixed the problem myself with the new and, hopefully, improved version from DORMAN.
 

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Did you compare them side by side to see if there was a difference? What was the Dorman #? I'm going to need one for my 2010...
 

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DORMAN 425-109. Job took approx 1 hour..fitting that rubber boot correctly was the hardest part of the job.

Did have them side by side ..they looked the same but I did not really look closely for any difference...sorry...I just want that car to run for another year or two so I hope that this DORMAN shaft will last that long...

good luck with yours and thanks again COBY7 for all your advice on this forum...
 

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I should replace mine too. The rattle is driving me insane. Still using the original at 148,800 miles.

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Since it's a non grease able up joint it's definitely a wear and tear item. However I agree it's a poor design.
 

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I read that you can wrap the joint with a piece of a bicycle inner tube and fill it full of grease. It would also protect the joint from the elements. Yeah, poor design indeed.

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Well....the new shaft did not solve my problem, altough the steering is a little smoother and the u-joint on the old shaft was a little stiff. I still had a 'creeking' intermittent noise when turning to the right and sometimes a rattle while driving straight on the highway (60 mph).
I looked at the front left strut and had my son turn the steering left to right a few times but could not really see anything wrong, coil spring was moving smoothly and could not feel any vibes when I put my hand on top of the strut (Lifetime warranty Monroe quick strut was installed 3 years ago, along with MOOG links, MOOG LCA and stab bar bushings).But when I put 150 lbs on the left side of the hood (my other son), the steering became really stiff and the coil spring was moving erraticaly. With the weight on the right side, steering was alright.
So I went ahead with a free replacement Monroe strut..still have the creeking noise and rattle.
No up and down movement of the tire when the car is jacked so the ball joint is fine and only slight left to right movement.

Is the RACK and PINION the culprit ? How to diagnose for sure a bad rack and pinion....looks fairly straight forward to remove and replace but approx $350.00 for the part...

Thanks for your advice.
 
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