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None of the above. I'm going to pencil in Mazdaspeed 3. Pretty fun car to drive.

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What year for the TC and Mazda 3? I don't like the the look of the new TCs and the older ones kinda look similar to the cobalt coupes, I'm not really a fan of those TCs either.
 

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Right now the 2014 2.5 Mazda3 is automatic only... I think it is in the works for the 6 speed 2.5 though.Honestly If i had to choose either one of the 2014 models it would be the Mazda3 hatchback. I don't like the sedan version of them, and I really don't like the tC. They both make about the same HP and TQ. I just like the Mazda better, but thats only if they do make the 6 speed for it. If not I will say the tC by default, if your looking for a hatchback, don't for get the Impreza, it doesn't make as much power, but it's still an option.
 

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Hopefully the newer mazda 3's have less rust issues than the older 05 ish models. The wheel wells dont last very long
I've not seen one with rust issues, so I don't know anything about that. I just know the numbers and power specs really. Cars and sports the only things i really keep up with...

I'm sure they've fixed any issues they've had since 05 though... 9 years and not fixing it would basically kill Mazda's reputation...
 

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As do I that's why I got a SOM Cobalt... and I think my next car is a 2009 Imperial Blue SS/TC Sedan... It says there were 40 of them made, but I've only heard of 2 on any of the cobalt forums, and I know of 1 other that is for sale that I'm working on buying... I were to get a Subie it would have to be an STI.
 

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Ya the new Mazda 3's are nice but a little pricey.... : ( Im gonna see how reliable my mom's Cx-5 is but I do love the look of the new gen mazda 3. Hopefully they come out with an awesome mazdaspeed 3 version of it soon : )
 

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I can't speak for the Mazda besides giving an opinion based on its appearance (I think it's ugly!), but I can share a little of my experience with a 2011 tC I test drove once. It's a decent car. Looks sporty, has some good attributes, but it'll never make you forget you're driving a Toyota. It just has no feel, no sound. It's sterile. Which is fine for most cars, but this is trying to pass itself off as a sport compact. It's also very expensive in Canada. The one I was looking at last year was sitting at a 'very competitive' $18k used. You can do so much better for that money.

Oh, and the new one has an illuminated hood logo. I think that's taking tacky to a whole new level.
 

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lol my cousin currently owns a 08 tC and I don't like it much, not a terrible car but isn't my taste i enjoy my balt way more! he only wins because he has a manual lol. I like how the new Mazda 3 looks, way better than older ones, current gen tC have a extremely weird look. I would go with Mazda 3. Just my opinion!
 

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Ya the new Mazda 3's are nice but a little pricey.... : ( Im gonna see how reliable my mom's Cx-5 is but I do love the look of the new gen mazda 3. Hopefully they come out with an awesome mazdaspeed 3 version of it soon : )
A mazdaspeed is in the talks but still up in the air. Mazda being on their own have to be careful but I don't see why not having a speed in the line up.
 

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Only reason I'd buy a tC: Toyota warranty business.

Only reason I'd buy an 3: smiley-gen makes me laugh.

Buddy of mine has a white 2nd gen MS3, tuned with an intake and a turbo-back.

For what it is, being a hatch...it runs pretty stout.
 

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If they do make the ms3, they need to make it an awd 2.5t it would keep pace with still and evo and possibly give it a better rep then.... I've liked them since my buddy Shannon had an 07, I think it was it was a fun car...
 

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Neither. Mazdaspeed 6.
 

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It's too bad the old MS6 was a total p;ile of crap drivetrain wise when you started modding it.
 
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